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is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop? >> well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand bargain, he told john boehner wait until the election. don't do this deal. so this is more of the same from him in his own relatively quiet way because he is much more intelligent than a lot of the other members. he does wield a lot of influence. what he's trying to do here is not just kick the can down the road but to kind of institution institutionalize basically a water torture for the country where we would be going through this potentially month after month after month. >> yeah. jared, it was reported today that the country saw another drop in unemploymen
is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop? >> well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand...
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president is going to go forward you have marco rubio in the senate and paul ryan in the house saying let's move this forward but as you said things to me gratian has an impact on an economy. and they reality is that just like every american family every day has to juggle i number of different challenges and responsibilities the least we can expect from members of congress is they can deal with more than one thing at the same time it is absolutely no barrier. to create jobs but it is important to understand at the immigration as part of that in there is a fair way forward for the american people on david thank you both thank you thank you it's. crazy alert the light at the couple a couple months ago we told you about. a couple club in tokyo where patrons can cuddle with club staff now are experiencing a boom in business and popularity roll out a new. menu option human but that's right for eleven dollars a minute customers of soda and asked for the. service they get to rest their heads of the behinds of the club's female staff other services the club the clue foot massages back pats an
president is going to go forward you have marco rubio in the senate and paul ryan in the house saying let's move this forward but as you said things to me gratian has an impact on an economy. and they reality is that just like every american family every day has to juggle i number of different challenges and responsibilities the least we can expect from members of congress is they can deal with more than one thing at the same time it is absolutely no barrier. to create jobs but it is important...
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so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >> registration is the worst. >> put it on tape. 5 0% chance it passes. >> good because hunters need 30 bullets. >> if you've seen a single republican say they support that -- >> a democratic lobbyist last night working on this very issue, he said we don't have the votes. that's now, and that is before the president goes outside with the outside game and tries to generate support from the american people. right now the polling isn't there. >> what about immigration? is the president going to get anything out of that? >> immigration is the one issue out there that over the course of the year you could see a deal coming together. you have to wa
so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >>...
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today that job belongs to paul ryan. why were we able to get budgets done when you ran things and can't do it anymore? try not to give me a particularly political or partisan answer. >> it's all personal ability, of course, right? no. look. these are good people trapped in a very difficult if not terrible situation. with a process they're not even using anymore. you went through a very good outline of how the process is supposed to work. the challenge right now in my mind is that no one is using that process starring with as you said the president is going to be late with his budget submission, then congress will not even most likely consider the budget. you put your finger on it. the process isn't working. these are good people, smar people. not that they're anti-budgets. >> we've had disagreements between parties for all of history. why have we been able to get budge es in the past and now our ideological leanings stop us? >> right now people who are supposed to be sitting around a table in a committee room having hear
today that job belongs to paul ryan. why were we able to get budgets done when you ran things and can't do it anymore? try not to give me a particularly political or partisan answer. >> it's all personal ability, of course, right? no. look. these are good people trapped in a very difficult if not terrible situation. with a process they're not even using anymore. you went through a very good outline of how the process is supposed to work. the challenge right now in my mind is that no one...
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representative paul ryan has already endorsed rubio's plan. legislators find 39 states are not considering new gun regulations and some may relax their gun laws. having more guns available for self-defense may curb gun violence. >>> the "washington post." clarence thomas broke a 7-year silence during oral arguments. what he was saying was unclear. sources say he was joking about the ivy league and the k transcript only partially showed what he said. he hasn't spoken since 1996. >>> walmart plans to hire any veteran who wants a job and officials project it will lead to 100,000 veterans in five years. >> that's a promise, significant. >> great news. also really quickly again, we want to show while we're doing the papers, the daily news, nra, coming up on the anniversary of newtown, where 20 young children were killed, has put out an app that 4 year-olds can use four years old and up, shoot at targets that are shaped like coffins. >> so get your app. let's go to willie at "politico "politico." >>> chief white house correspondent, mr. allen. you w
representative paul ryan has already endorsed rubio's plan. legislators find 39 states are not considering new gun regulations and some may relax their gun laws. having more guns available for self-defense may curb gun violence. >>> the "washington post." clarence thomas broke a 7-year silence during oral arguments. what he was saying was unclear. sources say he was joking about the ivy league and the k transcript only partially showed what he said. he hasn't spoken since...
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i didn't hear it from paul ryan, and i didn't hear it from the leaders. and that's the part i don't get. the debt ceiling, three months, whatever. the continuing resolution, that's a little bit in the weeds. but all right. fine. you can work with that. but i didn't hear them say what that was going to mean for spending, either. >> that's a great point, larry. they're not articulating spending cuts enough. but when you have someone like paul ryan at this retreat in williamsburg leading the effort behind the scenes for the short-term extension, he's telling members, especially the skeptical back benchers, that when that cr comes up in a couple months, when that sequester fight comes up and defense cuts in a couple months, house republicans will push for the spending cuts but they don't want to lose the pr bat toll a president who's very adept at pointing his finger at republicans and saying they want to cause default. >> okay. i think they're losing the pr battle anyway. >> perhaps they are. >> i mean, i don't know. i know obama's very fassel, but i also kn
i didn't hear it from paul ryan, and i didn't hear it from the leaders. and that's the part i don't get. the debt ceiling, three months, whatever. the continuing resolution, that's a little bit in the weeds. but all right. fine. you can work with that. but i didn't hear them say what that was going to mean for spending, either. >> that's a great point, larry. they're not articulating spending cuts enough. but when you have someone like paul ryan at this retreat in williamsburg leading the...
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. >> andrea: this is on the heels of white house telling paul ryan it won't meet a budget deadline. 1300 days we still don't a budget. he is saying i've been busy. sorry, i wouldn't get to the budget thing. as i mentioned in the "a" block, president obama said newtown, connecticut, was the hardest day of his presidency. we sat around for a week and not only us but others saying we need to do something. the approach i would have suggested, is to try to figure out a way to make some of this bipartisan at the outset and do the executive orders on the back end of that effort. instead he put the cart in front of the horse, now the horse won'tbe go anywhere. >> andrea: he hasn't cut spending at all. it's not even on the radar screen. >> eric: i don't think this is a distraction. this is an important time, not only in the legacy but america. he said, here i come. get ready, ready to fundamentally transform america. this was right before he started in 2009. october of 2008. rahm emanuel said don't let a good tragedy go to waste because you can do things to fundamentally transform america. he is
. >> andrea: this is on the heels of white house telling paul ryan it won't meet a budget deadline. 1300 days we still don't a budget. he is saying i've been busy. sorry, i wouldn't get to the budget thing. as i mentioned in the "a" block, president obama said newtown, connecticut, was the hardest day of his presidency. we sat around for a week and not only us but others saying we need to do something. the approach i would have suggested, is to try to figure out a way to make...
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yet paul ryan yesterday coming out and as a leader sort of talking about we may need to be more accepting of the fact that we only control the house. we don't have the white house or the senate. can republicans do anything in the context of the debate -- the fiscal debates we're in now to improve their brand, to improve their standing? >> i think with the middle, they could. the problem, though, is, mark, you know, so they hit their all-time low or high, however you want to characterize this number. it's the worst negative rating we've ever actually recorded for the republican party. but it was republicans. it's republicans who have now a more negative view. there's still more republicans that have a positive view than negative view, but it is core republicans who are upset with the party. so you have to ask yourself, if you're the republican party, who do you win back first, and how do you do it? so if they did a big grand bargain, their favorable ratings would jump a lot with a bunch of voters who may not ever support who they are. that's sort of the political box that i've heard that h
yet paul ryan yesterday coming out and as a leader sort of talking about we may need to be more accepting of the fact that we only control the house. we don't have the white house or the senate. can republicans do anything in the context of the debate -- the fiscal debates we're in now to improve their brand, to improve their standing? >> i think with the middle, they could. the problem, though, is, mark, you know, so they hit their all-time low or high, however you want to characterize...
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they told paul ryan on friday that he will not make that. there is going to be things coming in march or later giving them a bother. the reason given is the fiscal cliff deal. the budget cycle is just months and months of agency planning, back-and-forth of the office of budget management and that is the official region -- the official reason is a mini that in the middle of the debt ceiling fight. it is a wild card and the negotiation. we will have to see. host: erik watson with "the hill," thanks. we put that on the table for your house well and we will open the phones for the last 30 minutes. what are your thoughts? amin, democratic caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am a disabled vietnam veteran who was a medic in the military and i am 40 years to the day being treated for ptsd and it is not from the war but the injuries that i saw from assault weapons. the ak-47, the weapon of the vietnamese, and the m-16, our weapon that the vietnamese were somehow able to get a hold of. my first thought is to the first responders. i would l
they told paul ryan on friday that he will not make that. there is going to be things coming in march or later giving them a bother. the reason given is the fiscal cliff deal. the budget cycle is just months and months of agency planning, back-and-forth of the office of budget management and that is the official region -- the official reason is a mini that in the middle of the debt ceiling fight. it is a wild card and the negotiation. we will have to see. host: erik watson with "the...
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what i wish would happen right now, let paul ryan -- the republicans are in control of the house. they have a budget committee chairman who is nationally regarded, vice-president of the republican party. let him hold hearings, engage the american people, pass a budget, challenge the democrats to meet him halfway -- >> neil: i am not saying -- [overlapping dialogue] >> neil: but they do come up with budgets. the senate has yet to introduce one -- >> agreed! >> neil: putting the onus on them to come up with budgets and putting the onus on the democrats to do the same. rather than grant free rights for the president -- of any party in the future to willie null -- nilly usurp congress. >> it is not a usurption, the president will submit a budget in february-- the traditional way, the president submits every year -- it is not like every 10 years we have a budget negotiation. things can change, right? in 200 woon, when bill clinton left office, at this point, we would have had no net debt. what changed that? the republicans chasmed that. they created the structural deficit -- >> neil: w
what i wish would happen right now, let paul ryan -- the republicans are in control of the house. they have a budget committee chairman who is nationally regarded, vice-president of the republican party. let him hold hearings, engage the american people, pass a budget, challenge the democrats to meet him halfway -- >> neil: i am not saying -- [overlapping dialogue] >> neil: but they do come up with budgets. the senate has yet to introduce one -- >> agreed! >> neil:...
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he has a plan to reform immigration and he's teaming up with congressman paul ryan. we'll talk to you about that if it's okay. >> yeah. >> brian: this story has senator rubio beefedled as are we. his story captured the nation. overcoming the death his girlfriend. it turns out that girlfriend never died because she never lived. dr. keith ablow is a psychiatrist, but didn't go to enough school to go figure it out, but he'll try one. two. three. my credit card rewards are easy to remember with the bankamericard cash rewards credit card. earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. [ both ] 2% back on groceries. [ all ] 3% on gas. no hoops to jump through. i earn more cash back on the things i buy the most. [ woman ] it's as easy as... one! -two. -[ all ] three! [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards credit card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. fi
he has a plan to reform immigration and he's teaming up with congressman paul ryan. we'll talk to you about that if it's okay. >> yeah. >> brian: this story has senator rubio beefedled as are we. his story captured the nation. overcoming the death his girlfriend. it turns out that girlfriend never died because she never lived. dr. keith ablow is a psychiatrist, but didn't go to enough school to go figure it out, but he'll try one. two. three. my credit card rewards are easy to...
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maybe someone like paul ryan to come to the front to be the voice of the gop? >> i think everyone loves the sort of fantasy there will be someone on their side to will so captivate the public that he or she will outshine the president of the united states. it is just not going to happen. the president has an enormous microphone. he has the ability to capture enormous amounts of attention. republicans need to remember on these issues, how much the government spends, and how much it taxes, they have the electorate behind them. the conservatives are united the independents are really fiscally conservative. this is a bloc that controls america and they need to simply find a strategy, i think this is a good one, to have the debate about that spending issue. ashley: talking about spending, what one issue do you think is one that the republicans should really look in on? is it entitlement reform, health care costs? what is it that they should really zero in on? >> well, in the end the numbers are all driven by entitlements. you can make enormous progress on defense. y
maybe someone like paul ryan to come to the front to be the voice of the gop? >> i think everyone loves the sort of fantasy there will be someone on their side to will so captivate the public that he or she will outshine the president of the united states. it is just not going to happen. the president has an enormous microphone. he has the ability to capture enormous amounts of attention. republicans need to remember on these issues, how much the government spends, and how much it taxes,...
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host: what about paul ryan? stories coming out about his being quieter in the background, especially since the election. did he have any say in this or shaping of the policy? >> yes. paul ryan since he's come back to congress from the presidential trail has avoided taking questions and kind of kept his head down. but at this retreat he played a very important role in a couple ways. first of all, he was very active in leading discussions with the republicans when they were trying to decide what their strategy was, and he also came out and talked to reporters and kind of floated this idea of the short-term debt ceiling increase, and he was part of a group of five conservatives who blessed this deal on friday morning. jeb hencer ling of texas and steve of louisiana and jordan of ohio and ryan. so it remains to be seen whether that will be kind of a center of power going forward. host: as far as those five signing on to this deal, what's been talking about the members, especially on the republican side and -- will a
host: what about paul ryan? stories coming out about his being quieter in the background, especially since the election. did he have any say in this or shaping of the policy? >> yes. paul ryan since he's come back to congress from the presidential trail has avoided taking questions and kind of kept his head down. but at this retreat he played a very important role in a couple ways. first of all, he was very active in leading discussions with the republicans when they were trying to decide...
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paul ryan said there is no democrat who knows the budge like he does. senator gregg is a national leader on fiscal policy and a well known budget expert. he is currently co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt, a nonpartisan effort to reduce the national debt and put america on a better fiscal and economic path. both senators served on president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, otherwise known as simpson-bowles. the commission, originally modeled after legislation introduced by the pair, produced a debt reduction plan now hailed as a model of bipartisan compromise on taxes and spending and is the standard against b which all other proposals are measured. now, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome senators kent conrad and judd gregg. [applause] >> and, first, senator gregg. >> thank you, mark. appreciate that. that was quite an introduction. [laughter] it's great to be here with leading authorities. i've enjoyed the chance to work with them over the last couple years since i left the senate. they've been a wonderful firm t
paul ryan said there is no democrat who knows the budge like he does. senator gregg is a national leader on fiscal policy and a well known budget expert. he is currently co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt, a nonpartisan effort to reduce the national debt and put america on a better fiscal and economic path. both senators served on president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, otherwise known as simpson-bowles. the commission, originally modeled after...
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paul ryan said yesterday is a short-term increase in the debt limit. they're worried about getting the blame if things go sour. please. >> and john cornyn appearing to jump on that band wagon today. there were comments that sort of dovetailed with the poll. here is a quick quote. i think people are too dark about the economy now in part because of the shadow of pessimism, skepticism about our political system today. does that put the numbers that you just gave us into some context? >> exactly. he's been trying to make the argument that the fundamentals of this recovery are solid and in place and we're positioned to take off but for the political dysfunction. the president made that point as far back as the debt limit stand off in june, 2011 or the summer of 2011, saying our dysfunction is not economic but political. that is the message the president is taking to the public right now and with the recent election results behind him he is hoping to get republicans to bow and get out of the way of that in terms of trying to hold up a debt limit and let the
paul ryan said yesterday is a short-term increase in the debt limit. they're worried about getting the blame if things go sour. please. >> and john cornyn appearing to jump on that band wagon today. there were comments that sort of dovetailed with the poll. here is a quick quote. i think people are too dark about the economy now in part because of the shadow of pessimism, skepticism about our political system today. does that put the numbers that you just gave us into some context?...
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. >> actually looking at jay-z and paul ryan. beyonce and paul, just don't get this together. only in america. >> i want to ask you guys a little bit about the idea of a political speech or policy speech, i heard it, too, when he talked about that we cannot mistake absolutism for principle, it seemed like he was speaking to house republican, am i right? >> as i said he went after them on the takers, the absolutism made the point we have to act now. >> amazing shot there in the rotunda of the capital. thank you very much, mark, as they head in to do ceremonial work and signing, the president and vice president. i'm sorry, david. >> i was just saying he will have discussion now in the country. i think it's good. i think he's learned and frankly over the four years he taking by force of personality he could be a transcending force. he's learned he can't be. he's picked a team, that team is innate to him and he's made i thought an extremely eloquent speech for that side. so i think could in some way an opening for a more honest discussion about what the country should be. >> anyon
. >> actually looking at jay-z and paul ryan. beyonce and paul, just don't get this together. only in america. >> i want to ask you guys a little bit about the idea of a political speech or policy speech, i heard it, too, when he talked about that we cannot mistake absolutism for principle, it seemed like he was speaking to house republican, am i right? >> as i said he went after them on the takers, the absolutism made the point we have to act now. >> amazing shot there...
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it's interesting, we got one piece of news from paul ryan, of course, the vice presidental candidate with mitt romney and the head of the house budget committee an says the fight to have, and the hostage not to take is over the debt ceiling. because obviously if you go -- if you default, if you go over the debt ceiling and there is some technicality whether it's really a default or not, but it would certainly tank the economy and hurt our credit rating and raise interest rates. what ryan is suggesting is you just delay, you extend the debt ceiling for a few months and then you have the night oversee questions tracing, because there's already a hundred billion dollars in spending cuts that's baked in the cake that will take effect on march 1st. that's the point at which you say to the president if you're the republicans, look, we can either go with that hundred billion dolla dollar cut or work something else but we're going to cut a lot of money out of the budget. bill: can that idea move forward do you think. >> it makes a lot more sense. the republicans have a lot more leverage ther
it's interesting, we got one piece of news from paul ryan, of course, the vice presidental candidate with mitt romney and the head of the house budget committee an says the fight to have, and the hostage not to take is over the debt ceiling. because obviously if you go -- if you default, if you go over the debt ceiling and there is some technicality whether it's really a default or not, but it would certainly tank the economy and hurt our credit rating and raise interest rates. what ryan is...
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host: so the specifics are in the paul ryan plan? guest: they are. host: jeff is in florida. caller: hi. good morning, america. i look at problems and a simple level. use it the solutions solve more than one problem. when we have 45 million lost jobs, the budget goes up. when we have 3% unemployment, your budget goes down. the american people do not know they could add to their everyday life simple things and each time america works together as a team, they can knock off one day of that $4 billion a day that we're spending. everybody hang a sign -- "turn off hot water heater." "turned on hot water heater" in the morning. that will save every american family $30 a month. guest: that is common sense. i like common sense. part of what we get out of this is to grow our economy. we are americans. putting capital at risk and finding new ways to create goods and services that people wante. i introduced the mid-atlantic jobs act 2012. it opens up coastal virginia energy for energy exploration and harvesting. it would create 18,000 jobs. we're blessed with an abundance of natural reso
host: so the specifics are in the paul ryan plan? guest: they are. host: jeff is in florida. caller: hi. good morning, america. i look at problems and a simple level. use it the solutions solve more than one problem. when we have 45 million lost jobs, the budget goes up. when we have 3% unemployment, your budget goes down. the american people do not know they could add to their everyday life simple things and each time america works together as a team, they can knock off one day of that $4...
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there you see paul ryan among the dignitaries to arrive. we are going to be -- events will start to occur very quickly from here on in as we get to see more and more of the power pliers in washington arriving. we are standing by for the presidential arrival at the capitol on this historic day. a whole lot more. former secretary of state powell. he is a republican. a obama supporter and very candid about his concerns for his party's future. we will talk to him. that and more after a final commercial break. final commercial break. the president is coming out of the white house. actually before we go to commercial break, let's take a look. there you see the -- the president's mother-in-law. gloria, they will be making their way here to -- to the capitol. as the -- president's aides get ready to get in the various cars. what part of the white house is this? >> i think we are looking right now at the north door. the president has been attending a coffee with congressional leaders, with senate leader mitch mcconnell. speaker boehner and congressm
there you see paul ryan among the dignitaries to arrive. we are going to be -- events will start to occur very quickly from here on in as we get to see more and more of the power pliers in washington arriving. we are standing by for the presidential arrival at the capitol on this historic day. a whole lot more. former secretary of state powell. he is a republican. a obama supporter and very candid about his concerns for his party's future. we will talk to him. that and more after a final...
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in one shot you have jay-z and paul ryan. i don't know under what circumstances you would ever have those men in the same frame. but jay-z with beyonce, of course, and paul ryan the republican nominee for vice president. this is a live picture of the president proceeding through the capitol. he's headed to a lunch, the traditional lunch proceeding under the great dome of the capitol. the 150th anniversary of the completion of the dome is this year. a dome built during the civil war. a symbol of the unity of the nation. the president's proceeding in to that lunch now. there was a moment that occurred on the west front, just after all of this was wrapped up, after the national anthem was sung, and the president had something to say. and we wanted to show that to you. >> the president taking one last look at this view. he wanted to stop and linger and see it, record it so that he would never forget his last opportunity to look down the national mall toward the washington monument and the lincoln memorial, to see the crowd who ca
in one shot you have jay-z and paul ryan. i don't know under what circumstances you would ever have those men in the same frame. but jay-z with beyonce, of course, and paul ryan the republican nominee for vice president. this is a live picture of the president proceeding through the capitol. he's headed to a lunch, the traditional lunch proceeding under the great dome of the capitol. the 150th anniversary of the completion of the dome is this year. a dome built during the civil war. a symbol of...
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this was exactly what, if you'll recall, paul ryan in his vice-presidential speech and in other places pointed out that barack obama gave a speech in janesville, wisconsin gm plant and said we're going to keep this open for a hundred years with the auto bailout and they closed it started making those cars in china. i'd like to also point out that china, by the way, the media fact checkers found that to be a lie, too, they sided with obama on that and romney-ryan was correct on that as well. >> steve: sure. >> i'd like to point out that 55% of gm's increased production in china by 55% since the bailout and make seven out of ten cars outside the united states. so it's a good thing we did this 83 billion dollar auto bailout for american jobs. >> steve: sure, but you know, a big part of the president's face are auto union workers, they hear, hey, they're going to ship a bunch of car manufacturing jobs out to china, oh, wait a minute, i don't like that idea. so you've got a fact checking organization that came in and said that's the lie of the year. why would a fact checking organization sa
this was exactly what, if you'll recall, paul ryan in his vice-presidential speech and in other places pointed out that barack obama gave a speech in janesville, wisconsin gm plant and said we're going to keep this open for a hundred years with the auto bailout and they closed it started making those cars in china. i'd like to also point out that china, by the way, the media fact checkers found that to be a lie, too, they sided with obama on that and romney-ryan was correct on that as well....
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good morning to you, larry. >> good morning. >> pick up with paul haggis left off. he calls scientology a cult. based on your reporting, is that what you would call it? >> i don't use those words, only one opinion that matters about whether it's religion or a cult and that's the irs and they made that decision in 1993 in the nation of 2400 lawsuits from the church and church members. >> concluding it is a religion? >> yes. >> let's talk about what you found in your book. you say you interviewed more than 200 people you looked at thousands of pages of documents. what is the most troublesome practice you say you uncovered through your research? >> the recruitment of children at very young age to join their clergy call a sea orb, they step away from their education, they are impoverished by their service and made to work long hours, as paul said you can on that clip. some of these kids, you know, one of them i talked to, he was put in one of these heavy machinery factories where they notch books and they chopped off part of his finger. he was 16 years old. according to
good morning to you, larry. >> good morning. >> pick up with paul haggis left off. he calls scientology a cult. based on your reporting, is that what you would call it? >> i don't use those words, only one opinion that matters about whether it's religion or a cult and that's the irs and they made that decision in 1993 in the nation of 2400 lawsuits from the church and church members. >> concluding it is a religion? >> yes. >> let's talk about what you found...